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03-25-2012 01:35 PM - edited 03-25-2012 01:37 PM
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:Maybe the problem is that the items in question seem to be the first thing to rez. No protective walls which makes them visible. I was always under the understanding " No nudity even if in your home" Anyone can zoom in and see and the rezzing issue
the only place nudity is not allowed is on mainland moderate outside and General at all..
you can be nude outside on moderate estates unless the sim owner doesn't allow it..
and private estates you can even have sex outside if you are not advertising or drawing the public..now with being able to close off land from sight outside the pardel or sim with land settings..they may even consider those settings as putting your land out if sight and behind closed doors..you can't see in from outside unless you walk in..i don't think even camming in works with those settings on..
i'm wondering if those settings had something to do with the ratings changes..
it makes sense that they would hehehe
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Reply to Vick Forcella - view message
03-25-2012 09:27 PM
Vick Forcella wrote:It used to be allowed to "do whatever you want as long as it isn't commercial indoors" on mature land. At least that was Blondin's take on that.
Now I have had artwork returned from mature land. Artwork that was not visible from the outside. A sweet note followed shortly after.
That is odd since afaik it is allowed.
Is there a change in policy? No more fun allowed in Mature?
Blondin's office hour comments were -NEVER- policy.
I've been warning people about that since 2009...
Policy in the ToS has been consistent this whole time.
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Reply to Knowl Paine - view message
03-26-2012 01:10 AM
Knowl Paine wrote:I'm focusing on this part
"all support a Moderate designation so long as they do not host publicly promoted adult activities or content "
Land that allows access to all Residents is public, you cannot report a person for trespassing, and they cannot report you for ejecting them.
LL will advise to set access to a Group, or to None, to prevent un-welcomed guest.
I've bolded and coloured the most relevant word in that extract. It makes your conclusion wrong, I'm afraid.
The land can be in search as long as anything of an adult nature isn't set to be in search or promoted in the blurb.
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03-26-2012 01:14 AM
Vick Forcella wrote:Selling Adult items in Mature is allowed as long as it is not advertised using Adult words and (for poseballs) you can't demo them. Non-demo is allowed as long as it is not visble from the outside ("More visible").
That's not quite true. My bots demo sex animations and they are allowed to be there and do that. What they can't be is totally naked in the public store, which they are not.
That was all made clear by Blondin during the discussions on what's allowed and what's not allowed on Mature land.
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03-26-2012 01:18 AM
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:Maybe the problem is that the items in question seem to be the first thing to rez. No protective walls which makes them visible. I was always under the understanding " No nudity even if in your home" Anyone can zoom in and see and the rezzing issue
The "no nudity, even in your home" applies to PG land and not to Mature land. Nudity is allowed on Mature land but not in public. (Behind closed doors is not public. The fact that it doesn't stop anyone from camming and seeing is irrelevant.)
If nudity weren't allowed anywhere on Mature land, Mature would be identical to PG, but it's not.
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03-26-2012 01:20 AM
Eileen Fellstein wrote:I'm just curious if perhaps there is rated genereal land adjacent to your sim (or nearby and within camming range). It could be it was sighted and reported from someone camming that just assumed since they were in general, that everything they can see is, and maybe the Linden just assumed the same.
lol, someone bought a bunch of the land near me and set it to general recently. If they go camming around at just the right or wrong time, they might be in for s surprise! lol
I will keep Halestorm's 'I get off' playing on the youtube TV just in case
People can't change the rating of any mainland. Only a private sim owner can do that.
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03-26-2012 01:37 AM - edited 03-26-2012 02:46 AM
Ceka Cianci wrote:
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:Maybe the problem is that the items in question seem to be the first thing to rez. No protective walls which makes them visible. I was always under the understanding " No nudity even if in your home" Anyone can zoom in and see and the rezzing issue
the only place nudity is not allowed is on mainland moderate outside and General at all..
you can be nude outside on moderate estates unless the sim owner doesn't allow it..
and private estates you can even have sex outside if you are not advertising or drawing the public..now with being able to close off land from sight outside the pardel or sim with land settings..they may even consider those settings as putting your land out if sight and behind closed doors..you can't see in from outside unless you walk in..i don't think even camming in works with those settings on..
i'm wondering if those settings had something to do with the ratings changes..
it makes sense that they would hehehe
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Those settings do not block objects on the land from being seen. It only blocks the people from being seen, and heard(Blocks the User activity which the TOS uses the terms "Activity").
The issue here is, the objects being returned. If the walls are not rezzing before the nude photos, and the nude photos are clearly visible from the outside, then it may very well be the problem
But it clearly states "Nude art that is not sexual." can be okay. So I can see how you would be confused.
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03-26-2012 02:31 AM
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:The issue here is, the objects being returned. If the walls are not rezzing before the nude photos, and the nude photos are clearly visible from the outside, then it may very well be the problem.
That is a thought. But no way I can prevent that. It's LL responsability that the OMG-children can cam outside PG (can they?).
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03-26-2012 02:38 AM - edited 03-26-2012 02:44 AM
Vick Forcella wrote:OMG-children can cam outside PG (can they?).
Not sure about that
But I can see where it says "Nude art that is not sexual. is okay" So yea confusing a bit.
It has to be behind closed doors. So maybe it is they are rezzing first and quite visible
Hopefully they answer your ticket with some clarification
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03-26-2012 03:35 AM
Vick Forcella wrote:
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:The issue here is, the objects being returned. If the walls are not rezzing before the nude photos, and the nude photos are clearly visible from the outside, then it may very well be the problem.
That is a thought. But no way I can prevent that. It's LL responsability that the OMG-children can cam outside PG (can they?).
Yes they can. They can see outside PG land and they can cam outside it too. It's those who are registered as teens that are said not to be able to see Mature land.

