05-08-2012 10:44 AM
If you are a clothing designer interested in getting the mesh deformer integrated into all SL viewers, you can help both make it better and get it integrated more quickly:
We need a collection of test garments that we can use to evaluate this feature, and to form the basis of an ongoing regression test of it once it is integrated. These need not be "good looking", and in some cases should not be (so we're not asking you to give away your best commercial work). What we need is deformable mesh garments, based on either the unaltered "new shape" (female), or that shape changed to male; the garments should be designed to explore the limits of the technology as well as to showcase the normal easy cases.
Some examples I can think of (but I expect that you as designers and fashionistas can think of more and better):
- a full length garment (ball gown, trenchcoat, kaftan)
- garments designed to be close fitting around problem areas like the shoulders, breasts, and butt (or whatever areas you think are problems)
- garments designed to stand away from the body in some areas (capes, high collars, flared or puffed sleeves and pants, hoop skirts)
- very small garments that cover limited areas (gloves, shoes, scarves, shin and thigh pads)
- garments designed to layer with each other (a close fitting shirt with a jacket to wear over it)
It would probably be useful for these test garments not to be textured for normal use — instead, give them simple high contrast patterns like checks or stripes that make it easy to evaluate how textures are altered by the deformations.
If you'd like to contribute items for this effort, please:
- Upload them with the current version of the official Project Viewer for the Deformer. You can find a download link on the test build wiki page, and record the full version number of the viewer you used (from the Help > About Second Life floater).
- Put a copy of the garment (no-modify is fine, but please allow copy and transfer) into a Notecard that describes what the garment is intended to demonstrate or test. Links to images of what you think it should look like would be useful; be sure to include the version number from the viewer in the Notecard.
- Send the Notecard to Oz Linden
- Optionally, attach the mesh file to STORM-1716
I'd like to get Contribution Agreements from anyone submitting garments; contact me for details on that if you need them.
I will establish a way anyone can pick up copies of the test garments that we incorporate into the test suite.
05-08-2012 01:35 PM
Dilbert Dilweg wrote:
Awesome! . Glad to see this moving along to public vender beta testng now.
Dilbert, don't get overly exited yet. Oz added a comment. As Linden Lab does not design clothes, they do need those garments from designers for deformer testing purposes.
Oz Linden commented on STORM-1716:
Perhaps this issue really isn't all that important, or worth the trouble to integrate.
So far, only one designer has responded with one test garment.
Let me be clear - the lack of test material is a major blocker for testing, and therefor accepting, this proposed feature. If you want it, step up and do it soon.
05-08-2012 02:27 PM
Oz Linden wrote:
What we need is deformable mesh garments, based on either the unaltered "new shape" (female), or that shape changed to male;
Are these unaltered shapes identical to those in the official avatar_mesh.zip download?
If not, where to obtain these reference shapes? Linden Lab's viewer cannot export them, can it?
05-08-2012 02:37 PM
05-08-2012 05:20 PM
Thanks for posting this here, Oz. Not that many people read the jira, and many of us who are following the topic there are, like me, watching it because we're eager to be able to buy deformable mesh clothes rather than because we want to (or know how to) make them.
I'll certainly do what little I can to help, though, by contacting some of the in-world designers I do know, or whose mesh clothes I have already bought, drawing their attention to your post, since they may well not read the forums either (I got the idea from Nalates' blog), and I suggest anyone else who wants to see the deformer adoptedas soon as possible does the same.
05-08-2012 05:24 PM
Oz, keep trying, Im sure people are working on this. Maybe u should post this in plurk I heard everyone in the fashion industry has one.
05-08-2012 05:34 PM
If you want the clothing samples to work with nothing better than ask for ones, nalates blog gives a name that sounds good to start, influential blogger in plurk ask her to send a message to other desingners.
Im interested in the deformer, nothing special but i really think this is the project that if you guys get it right many things could change, in the other hand if you quit, well, we all know the story.
have a nice day!